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Post by gatek99 on Jan 8, 2013 0:39:10 GMT -5
Just for fun and knowledge, what cities on the Eastern side of the States do you think can support a team if they started play next season?
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Post by exit322 on Jan 8, 2013 8:49:42 GMT -5
None. It's too close to kickoff for it to be successful.
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Post by 50 Yard Fan on Jan 8, 2013 11:33:46 GMT -5
I am going to guess that he meant 2014, and if he didn't, let's go with that question.
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Post by gatek99 on Jan 8, 2013 12:02:16 GMT -5
2014, I mean if you were to place a team somewhere in the future, what would work. Not placing a team and setting up something in two months
Basically what cities can work in indoor football
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Post by BlitzinBandit on Jan 8, 2013 13:35:17 GMT -5
I'll bite, I was always curious about areas from back in the early years from the northeast like bangor, ME, concord, NH, maybe albany again(do not know if it is a burned market)hartford, CT maybe boston area or worchester.
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Post by gatek99 on Jan 8, 2013 20:05:19 GMT -5
what about Charleston and Savannah?
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Post by exit322 on Jan 8, 2013 20:25:11 GMT -5
Find an arena with a decent population base and a workable arena at a fair price, and if a good owner's there it can work. Very few markets have been burnt to the crisp that will preclude people from ever giving a crap.
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Post by BlitzinBandit on Jan 8, 2013 20:29:42 GMT -5
Personally think the northeast could really use some indoor football, I think they love their football up there.
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Post by Bouncer_Texxx on Jan 9, 2013 9:03:03 GMT -5
Indoor ball thrives where there is little else to do between March-May... places like Sioux Falls and Sioux City because literally what else is a guy going to do? Junior hockey is ok, but at the end of the day it's glorified high school hockey.
For example: Fort Collins, CO who support their minor league hockey team to the point of consistent sellouts, can't pay people to come to Ice games because after say...April people want to be rafting, kayaking, hiking, jeep driving, swimming, bocce ball, horseshoes, badminton, running, mountain biking, or just about any activity that takes place outside.
So, maybe that's why indoor football has never really take off on the coasts, there's a LOT more to do...
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Post by gatek99 on Jan 9, 2013 12:22:22 GMT -5
Indoor ball thrives where there is little else to do between March-May... places like Sioux Falls and Sioux City because literally what else is a guy going to do? Junior hockey is ok, but at the end of the day it's glorified high school hockey. For example: Fort Collins, CO who support their minor league hockey team to the point of consistent sellouts, can't pay people to come to Ice games because after say...April people want to be rafting, kayaking, hiking, jeep driving, swimming, bocce ball, horseshoes, badminton, running, mountain biking, or just about any activity that takes place outside. So, maybe that's why indoor football has never really take off on the coasts, there's a LOT more to do... So you think New England would flop with all the hockey teams?
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Post by Banana Cat on Jan 9, 2013 16:12:43 GMT -5
I didn't know the folks around Fort Collins were into that. I'm into chariot racing myself.
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Post by gunfighters on Jan 9, 2013 17:11:02 GMT -5
For example: Fort Collins, CO it deeper then that.... yes the eagles have sold out for something crazy like 300+ consecutive games but even with the nhl strike, the Denver cut throats arn't drawing any were near as well and the rage only made it 3 seasons before folding... eagles are a house hold name, even here in denver... no one has even hurd of the ice... its a marketing thing, pure and simple.. if everyone was out playing in the great out doors... MLL, MLS and MLB would do poorly here... and that is far from the case I feel the ice are doing a lot wrong, one of them being no price break or outher insentive on season tickets... if the cost is the same...why buy ahead of time? its not like they well be sold out! if you haven't bought and have a ticket in you hand allready payed for...things will likly come up and you will scipt games, go to that party instead, etc Thats ticket money lost, vending money lost, and loss of word of mouth marketing cause you arn't talking about how much fun you had come monday moring around the water cooler. it also lost expose to posabul new fans as the tickets don't get given to a friend if some one cant make it
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Post by Bouncer_Texxx on Jan 9, 2013 19:02:33 GMT -5
I didn't know the folks around Fort Collins were into that. I'm into chariot racing myself. Bocce ball, footbag, frisbee golf, yeah anything played by white guys with dreads
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Post by Bouncer_Texxx on Jan 9, 2013 19:14:50 GMT -5
For example: Fort Collins, CO it deeper then that.... <snip> no one has even hurd of the ice...<snip> its a marketing thing, pure and simple.. if everyone was out playing in the great out doors... MLL, MLS and MLB would do poorly here... and that is far from the case Oh, marketing plays a HUGE role in the ultimate success or failure of any minor league sport. That's a given in my book. Of course comparing the Denver metro to NoCo is a bit of an apples and oranges comparison though based on population numbers alone. Also, in only a select few places do "major league" sports and "minor league" sports co-exist and both thrive. All the marketing and free tickets in the world can not overcome the "if it's not top shelf it's shat" mentality. How do the sky socks do in ColoSpgrs? (Honestly just asking, because I don't know)
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Post by gunfighters on Jan 9, 2013 21:10:59 GMT -5
advrage around 4900 fans a game out of 8500 seats... the grandjuntion rockies did about 2700 with 7k seats
you would think the ice could do well @ there venue...it may be a tad big for them... but its placed right, not much in the area.
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