agent47
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Post by agent47 on Jan 3, 2013 8:24:13 GMT -5
Yes I agree with the travel situation for sure a major problem. Well it wasnt as I say because you are much more informed then myself. On one of the 3 websites I have seen the had a 3 person staff Commish, VP and dir of ops with I mentioned. The APFL was run and controlled by one man. So AIFL staff or no staff I would think some form of a staff is better then a one man show. That part is not important. It seems a league like this could work. With all the football out there period. What is the big deal about a semi pro\pro indoor league in general? I find semi pro better indoor or outdoor with indoor field dimensions anyway. Conditioning plays a little less of a factor so better football. My point I wouldnt mind seeing more leagues like that at that level.
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Post by Banana Cat on Jan 3, 2013 14:21:52 GMT -5
It's not a matter of being more informed on the AIFL. Anyone can take a look at them and see them for what they are in a matter of minutes. I don't have anything against semi-pro, despite what some believe. What I despise is disorganization, unreliability, and outright lies. Many semi-pro leagues have those three things in abundance. If you're going to have a recreational league, fine, have fun. If you're going to try and put lipstick on a recreational league and present it as something more and don't deliver, then I have a problem with that. If that only happened once, no big deal, but it happens ALL THE EFFING TIME. Burn me once, shame on you, yadda, yadda, yadda. When I was in the military and stationed in Europe, the major bases each had their own semi-pro team with full gear and helmets and everything else. It was a big deal to most of the base commanders and people with talent often got choice assignments relating to their performance and ability. Despite deployments and other real world events affecting rosters, each game was played and put on professionally. My experience in the military is probably to blame for me having no tolerance for unprofessionalism, unreliability, and people scamming owners and the public. Is the AIFL a scam league. My take is yes. Exhibit A: Money Grab. www.aiflfootball.org/AIFL_Association.html The league wants $15 and $20 each for two league associations from every player. Do you think that money will be used for anything other than to line the commish's pockets? Do you think every player on every team will pay it? What is the league offering to teams other than a rinky dink website and a schedule they coordinated between the teams? How much are the teams paying the league and what are they getting in return (whatever it is isn't worth it). Look into the teams and you can see that the majority of them do not have any resources. Most will not last the entire season with travel set up the way it is. The regular season will be dotted with cancelled games, rescheduled games, forfeits, teams folding, excuses, the league blaming teams, teams blaming the league, etc. No one wants to see successful leagues more than I, whether that be pro or semi-pro. I do not have a tolerance for scams or unreliability though. If you are going to present a league as a professional league (as the AIFL is doing), then be %*(%& professional. If you think I'm being harsh, this is me on a good day. These types of leagues have been done over and over and the result is always the same. People talking out of their a** trying to put the emphasis on the delusional idea that they are giving players a chance to move up to another level. Those people need to cut the bs. The Palm Beach Phantoms semi-pro team lost 0-100 against the UIFL's Lakeland Raiders last year and the owner/coach was still talking smack and trash. Get real. Ok, I'll quit now, got to go to the gym, get rid of my hostility.
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agent47
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Post by agent47 on Jan 3, 2013 14:41:19 GMT -5
Well did not mean to strike a nerve lol ya I get all that and appreciate your opinion on my initial question. What makes leagues at this level work? Iam all for a good business plan and professionalism. Happy New Year 47
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Post by gunfighters on Jan 3, 2013 16:11:22 GMT -5
BC it looks to me like one is for players and one is for refs... odd there is no problem with semipro teams... but they cant survive pro expenses and travle... all too offen these leagues are @ best misguided with there heads in the couds @ worst a total joke praying on the hopes of players/owners still trying to live the dream.
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Post by Banana Cat on Jan 3, 2013 19:35:29 GMT -5
Well did not mean to strike a nerve lol ya I get all that and appreciate your opinion on my initial question. What makes leagues at this level work? Iam all for a good business plan and professionalism. Happy New Year 47 Ha, it's fine. I just get tired of these scam leagues is all. Plus I'm back from working out, less hostility for the next 12 hours. Money and commitment is what makes teams work at this level, and most have none of either. Teams seem to think renting an arena is all they need to do as well, but if you don't market no one will come, and if you don't get sponsors you'll run out of money sooner rather than later. Forget about making a profit as well, if you break even consider yourself lucky. If you do make a profit you are fortunate, but you can be sure the other teams in your league are likely losing money and in the end that will also catch up to you when games start getting cancelled. Owners getting together and forming a league, then appointing a commissioner and league staff is also the way to go. Joining a league someone just set up as a hobby?, bad decision.
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Post by Banana Cat on Jan 3, 2013 19:41:24 GMT -5
@ worst a total joke preying on the hopes of players/owners still trying to live the dream. Those are the one's I dislike the most, but the owners and players also need to be less gullible as well. Be wary of startup leagues. If they have 3 stable years under their belt (mwa haa haa), then you can be less wary. Never take anything at face value, there are a ton of vipers, scam artists, crooks, and outright liars in the minor league football world.
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Post by 50 Yard Fan on Jan 9, 2013 13:42:35 GMT -5
The Kearney Hawks announced they will not be playing this year.
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Post by BlitzinBandit on Jan 9, 2013 14:01:08 GMT -5
The bump being unable to afford doing what they have been trying to do! It is pretty simple people, you live up to your means so if you can not afford paying any bills then why try to get an indoor football team going? All these phonies have been and continue to ruin a family friendly fun thing to do just to try and make a buck and is getting so annoying to see anymore.
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Post by gatek99 on Jan 9, 2013 14:59:41 GMT -5
a team already dropped out
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Post by Banana Cat on Jan 9, 2013 16:15:12 GMT -5
Not surprising at all.
Totally agree Blitzinbandit.
1 down, 9 to go (updated the first post).
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Post by 50 Yard Fan on Jan 9, 2013 20:06:43 GMT -5
Just in from the AIFL
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Post by 50 Yard Fan on Jan 9, 2013 20:11:12 GMT -5
And the latest from the NY Wolves
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Post by Banana Cat on Jan 9, 2013 20:22:05 GMT -5
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Post by gatek99 on Jan 9, 2013 21:59:59 GMT -5
two teams in indy? I wonder where they will play. Would be nice for the Panthers of course
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Post by 50 Yard Fan on Jan 11, 2013 11:42:18 GMT -5
Indoor Football Fans is reporting the Muncie has folded.
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