Post by rockybighorn on May 29, 2012 15:34:21 GMT -5
I wish I had more to say about this game but I just really don't. I'm glad that we "escaped" with a win. Riggs really didnt have a lot of negative things to say about the officials. I guess I still think a 29-8 difference tells a you what you need to know especially if its a week in, week out thing in one city. But either way you look at it this game was much closer than probably should have been. If the Fever couldn't take advantage of that many penalties than I still think SF is a much better team. We were penalized 170 yards. Thats almost 3.5 trips down the field. If the Fever had capilitized on one of those they would have won. Like Herm Edwards says, when he was coaching they figured every 100 yards in penalities was 1 score for the opponent. I cant blame the kicker because that is a fact of life in indoor football. If the Fever had done a better job of getting the defense off the field after SF committed penalties then they wouldnt have had to rely on the kicker. Plus I think that just like last time, Shackleford made some questionable calls on both sides fo the ball, but I guess he figures he is going to have to gamble a couple times a game to beat the Storm. All in all a win is a win. TC should be proud of the way they played, they gave the Storm a wake up call & closed a huge gap that I don;t think many were expecting. Hoopefully for the rest of the league they didn;t wake a sleeping giant because the Storm are already a team that gets up for the playoffs, this may have been the wake up call that gets them going.
Post by Bouncer_Texxx on May 29, 2012 17:40:46 GMT -5
Take this for what it's worth, this is the 4th time (all on the road mind you) that the Storm have logged over 10 penalties in a game this season (17 Reading, 15 omaha, 29 Tri-Cities, 12 Green Bay)
we are averaging 10 penalties a game.. just over 13 a game on the road, and just over 6 on the road.
Now, in real time (in person for Omaha and Green Bay, and via B2 for TC, I did not watch the Reading game) I thought most of the calls were legitimate enough, perhaps a bit ticky tack, but by the letter of the law, a good call. However, these are positions that a veteran, disciplined football team should not be putting themselves in.
The grounding call was so iffy, I'm glad I'm not an official, Kennedy WAS in the area, but was engaged with a defender, and the ball landed 2-3 feet away from his feet...
Road teams in Tri-Cities average 17(!) penalties a game this season.
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Post by tcfeverams on May 29, 2012 20:00:48 GMT -5
This is an excerpt from an message I got from a former Fever player. I left out his name because he plays for another team now. I asked him what he had thought of the TC refs back when he played for us in 2010.
"A good ref tries not to be part of the game. The game should be decided by the players. This group of IFL officials in TC love to be part of the game. They know the rule book better than most IFL refs, and love to throw as many flags as they can, over the smallerst things in the world. It killed me. Back in 2010, TC's first year in the IFL, we had tons of flags. Near the top of the league because of these guys. Shack has learned these refs. He knows what they call, and what they miss. He is a smarter coach then they are refs, and this is what you are seeing. Trust me, they are not trying to help TC, they will flag them as much as anyone else. They did when I was there. But Shack is used to how amazingly strict they are, and has adjusted. Other teams coming into the Toyota center have not. The game was more than likely called fair."
Post by rockybighorn on May 30, 2012 14:23:13 GMT -5
I get the jist of what this guy is saying tcfever but he also sort of contradicts himself. He says Shack has learned what the refs call and what they miss but then he says it was called fairly. It is what it is, I dont think we need to spend too much time analyzing what one group of officials calls and what they dont. Shack has it figured out and good for him. I guess the road teams in the playoffs can be happy that they use different crews in the playoffs.
Time for the rematch! TC has a lot of ground to make up from 2 weeks ago, especially with the paltry numbers they put up against WY this last week & the way SF handled GB. Every week is different and like Chris Berman says "that's why they play the game" Anything can happen but I agree tcfeverams I still think that the Storm is too much for the Fever at this point. Hope it is at least a good game for you to go & enjoy. Tell Ms. Carr I said HI. I dont think she likes me too much...she gave me the finger at last year's United Bowl. LOL
Another owner directed me to this comment. I guess he thought it was out of character to hear that I would do this. I'm a little confused as to who you mistook me for. I have never flipped anyone off much less a fan of one of my partners. Tri-Cities had about 20 people there and someone may have displayed poor sportsmanship, but I can assure you it wasn't me. I don't mind saying that I don't appreciate that someone would say that I did. I do take that very personally.
Sioux Falls fans do a great job of supporting their team. I would like all teams to have fans like that.
I doubt she gave you the finger without provication. What did you do?
I'm not at liberty to discuss the specifics of any events that may or may not have taken place at last year's United Bowl as the litigation is still pending.
In all actuality though, it was probably late 3rd quarter, the Fever were getting frustrated & since we sit in the 2nd row (if you're familiar with the Arena in SF, there are only a couple rows that are right on the field) we were talking a little smack to the Fever players. Nothing profane or offensive, just sutff like "Terry's gonna break your ankles when he blows by you & stuff" Maybe at that point in the game it wasn't appropriate but it was United Bowl & we were into the game. Ms. Carr was sitting on the other side of the scorer's table from us & apparently was not to happy that we were smack talking her little boys & so after ANOTHER SF score & my section was giving each other hi-fives she glared over at me & BAM! flies the bird, I laughed at her. It makes for a good story.
Was not me. I was not sitting there. I was standing in the back next to Tommy Benezio. However, we did have some fans sitting in the front row next to the score table. In the future I would appreciate you get your facts straight before you accuse someone of doing something so unprofessional that puts such a bad light on them.
It's nice to know that it didn't happen and was just a case of mistaken identity. Thanks for clearing it up.
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Post by rockybighorn on Jun 5, 2012 9:24:25 GMT -5
Ms. Carr I would like to apologize for accusing you of this. I was told by several people at the game that had more knowledge than I of the "who's who" of the IFL that this person was you. I wasn't just making a story up on a hunch. I thought I had my facts straight but clearly I was given some bad information.
Post by rockybighorn on Jun 5, 2012 9:27:22 GMT -5
Previous to your post yesterday I had no reason to believe that what I was saying was not true. However, I was flipped off by a "female Fever fan" the way I described, it simply was not the person I was told that it was.
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