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Post by CF4L on Apr 22, 2009 9:51:43 GMT -5
www.billingsgazette.net/articles/2009/04/22/sports/local/35-outlawstrade.txtThree days after their lowest offensive output of the season, the Billings Outlaws have added a new weapon.
Billings coach Heron O'Neal announced on Tuesday that the team has traded three players to the Bloomington Extreme for wide receiver Robert Redd.
In exchange for Redd, a former Arena Football League and NFL Europe player, the Outlaws sent linebacker Paul Szezesny, defensive back Chazman Williams and offensive lineman Jason Peterson to Bloomington.
O'Neal said Redd is expected to arrive in Billings today and could be in the lineup for Saturday's home game against Sioux Falls. Billings (4-1) suffered its first loss of the season, 48-33, last week at Omaha. ......article continues in link. Credit goes to fwp at the indoorfootballfan.com message boards
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Post by Bouncer_Texxx on Apr 22, 2009 11:08:37 GMT -5
Redd had a good game against us in week 1. Dixon will need weapons in order to attempt to get the W.
looks like Bloomington is now the farm team for Billings..
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Post by Doom on Apr 22, 2009 12:06:04 GMT -5
another trade between these 2 jesus, 1st walton now redd along with austin that is pretty scary.
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Post by extreme5 on Apr 22, 2009 19:52:36 GMT -5
How can you just trade guys in this league? I mean seriously, I'm not trying to put the league down but personally, if I was playing for Bloomington and got traded to freaking Billings I would just quit. Most of these guys have real jobs in the cities they play in, what are they supposed to do if they get traded?
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Post by CF4L on Apr 22, 2009 19:53:40 GMT -5
that has always been my question.
if you're playing local guys who are you to tell them they have to leave?
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Post by msantamaria on Apr 22, 2009 19:57:53 GMT -5
Szezesny and Williams didn't even play last week. The question now becomes, where does Willie Austin go? He didn't even make the 21 man for the trip to Omaha, and Redd pushes him down another rung. Although Jamie January played poorly enough that they might try to keep Austin around as a safety net. January has played well for the majority of the year, though.
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Post by Banana Cat on Apr 22, 2009 20:35:12 GMT -5
Trades in this league usually happen with input from the players. If the player in no way wants to go anywhere else, there won't be a trade. Bloomington was having problems with Redd, so getting players from Billings instead of him just up and leaving was probably better for them in the long run as at least they get three players. Perhaps they can use them, they must think so or they wouldn't have accepted the trade. At the end of last year, Walton didn't want to stay in Bloomington, he wanted to be in Billings, so there only option was to trade him and at least get something for him as I'm sure he would've served the three game suspension at the start of the season this year to change teams himself, as OJ Simpson did when he went from Sioux City to Omaha.
The trade I didn't like was when Leif Murphy went from Omaha to Sioux Falls a few years ago...for get this...future considerations. LOL, what considerations were those, we won't kick your ass...as bad?
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Post by extreme5 on Apr 22, 2009 20:51:19 GMT -5
Trades in this league usually happen with input from the players. If the player in no way wants to go anywhere else, there won't be a trade. Bloomington was having problems with Redd, so getting players from Billings instead of him just up and leaving was probably better for them in the long run as at least they get three players. Perhaps they can use them, they must think so or they wouldn't have accepted the trade. At the end of last year, Walton didn't want to stay in Bloomington, he wanted to be in Billings, so there only option was to trade him and at least get something for him as I'm sure he would've served the three game suspension at the start of the season this year to change teams himself, as OJ Simpson did when he went from Sioux City to Omaha. The trade I didn't like was when Leif Murphy went from Omaha to Sioux Falls a few years ago...for get this...future considerations. LOL, what considerations were those, we won't kick your ass...as bad? I figured it was something along those lines, still it seems kind of strange that these guys would completely change their life by moving hundreds of miles away to play ball for $200 a game. But I guess for a guy like Redd he is trying to keep his game sharp for a possible return to the AFL.
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Post by Doom on Apr 22, 2009 22:09:36 GMT -5
Trades in this league usually happen with input from the players. If the player in no way wants to go anywhere else, there won't be a trade. Bloomington was having problems with Redd, so getting players from Billings instead of him just up and leaving was probably better for them in the long run as at least they get three players. Perhaps they can use them, they must think so or they wouldn't have accepted the trade. At the end of last year, Walton didn't want to stay in Bloomington, he wanted to be in Billings, so there only option was to trade him and at least get something for him as I'm sure he would've served the three game suspension at the start of the season this year to change teams himself, as OJ Simpson did when he went from Sioux City to Omaha. The trade I didn't like was when Leif Murphy went from Omaha to Sioux Falls a few years ago...for get this...future considerations. LOL, what considerations were those, we won't kick your ass...as bad? I figured it was something along those lines, still it seems kind of strange that these guys would completely change their life by moving hundreds of miles away to play ball for $200 a game. But I guess for a guy like Redd he is trying to keep his game sharp for a possible return to the AFL. You know as well as most of us that players in bloomington/billings dont make 200 a game lol.
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Post by extreme5 on Apr 23, 2009 9:13:31 GMT -5
I figured it was something along those lines, still it seems kind of strange that these guys would completely change their life by moving hundreds of miles away to play ball for $200 a game. But I guess for a guy like Redd he is trying to keep his game sharp for a possible return to the AFL. You know as well as most of us that players in bloomington/billings dont make 200 a game lol. Really? I wouldn't be completely shocked but how much do you think they're making? I can't imagine those two teams paying out that much more money for those guys. But even if they are I'm sure they are being encouraged by the IFL to keep these guys around.
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Post by Doom on Apr 23, 2009 10:02:33 GMT -5
well the base 200 plus win bonus, and it really goes into sponorship(local companies that the players sometimes work for)/side deals with incentives etc, which i have no problem with it from the players side of the deal. and when teams trade like this its almost a dead giveaway cause like you said noone would move cross country to play for 200 a game, same thing with walton at the end of last season though, it seems like bloomington and billings have something going with their trades.
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Post by Banana Cat on Apr 23, 2009 21:23:57 GMT -5
Majority of teams do it, the one's at the very bottom of the standings just don't do it as much.
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