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Post by Bouncer_Texxx on Jan 28, 2011 17:18:47 GMT -5
to be fair, while I can't pretend that the APFL is in any superior to the IFL, CF4L is right, everyone got all their games, home and away, in 2010.
you can let that cut grass ferment for a while to make silage, but it still smells like chit.
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Post by BNDC on Jan 29, 2011 16:38:48 GMT -5
My 10 year old sisters softball league played all of their games, are they better than anybody?
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Post by CF4L on Jan 29, 2011 16:43:02 GMT -5
My 10 year old sisters softball league played all of their games, are they better than anybody? your 10 year old sister's league doesn't pretend to be the "premier" league in all of 10 year old softball leagues.
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Post by Banana Cat on Jan 30, 2011 7:14:53 GMT -5
I heard his sister's softball league could be anyone's softball league, despite the difference in ball sizes/quality/quantity/texture.
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Post by BNDC on Jan 30, 2011 14:59:00 GMT -5
Actually they were horrible, I felt they had more talent.
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Post by Banana Cat on Feb 12, 2011 10:27:26 GMT -5
They've released their schedule according to this release and yet I still can't see it anywhere online. Typical of the APFL.
They've also added two new road-only teams in order to pad the full-fledged teams win-loss record in league standings...another typical APFL move. I have nothing against these types of games being played, but do take issue with calling them anything other than exhibition games. These moves and others are why I can't stand the league (but still like certain member teams). The league could be cheaply ran as it is, but be so much better with a more competent person at the helm.www.wibw.com/sports/headlines/APFL_Releases_2011_Schedule_115990104.html
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Post by Banana Cat on Feb 12, 2011 10:30:39 GMT -5
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Post by CF4L on Feb 12, 2011 17:11:40 GMT -5
its ok BC, I know you aren't biased or anything (just like I'm not biased against the IFL).
I think they should have waited, because there is one team I know for sure is in flux right now.
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Post by Banana Cat on Feb 12, 2011 17:44:18 GMT -5
its ok BC, I know you aren't biased or anything (just like I'm not biased against the IFL). I think they should have waited, because there is one team I know for sure is in flux right now. Not sold yet? I heard the league would buy them, but it's probably a bargain basement price. I don't think I'm biased on how the APFL is ran, most people that follow that league agree with me, including the Blackhawk's front office, coaches, and the head coach's wife (an avid messageboard presence). The only people I know that defend them beyond reason is you, fwp (although he's been quiet on it for almost 2 years now), and the Koyotes organization (which just happen to be owned by the person who runs the league). It begs the question on why you defend them so much, doesn't it. I think the reason you're biased against the IFL is only in defense of the APFL to make it look better (show that they're all junk, so what's the difference kind of thing). Maybe some hard feeling still exists against the NIFL teams that left for the UIF as well. You tell me. I'm open in what I don't like on the APFL, always have been. So tell me...you like when a league brings in road-only teams to get bludgeoned by full-fledged teams to pad win-loss records? You like semi-pro teams added to count in league standings to also pad win-loss records? You like semi-pro replacement teams to fill out scheduling holes in order to save home games from falling through (but having a 90-14 score and the fear of injuries in a meaningless game)? You like a league where the owner arbitrarily bans the Wichita Aviator from rightfully hosting the title game in a petty display of favoritism towards his own team, the Koyotes? You like a league where the owner brings the Beaumont Drillers in for the title game after they had folded and not played a game for 2 months, so they had to scrape together what few players they had left in the area and a bunch of semi-pro's for a title match??? The list of APFL ridiculousness knows no end and I've forgotten many of them. Why do you think Paul Reeths won't cover the league on OurSportsCentral? You can't tell me that with Hiffernan in charge it wouldn't be a better league and less petty. What you're basically doing is defending Ralph Adams and from everything I see and read only you and the Koyotes are doing that.
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Post by doobi on Feb 12, 2011 19:49:58 GMT -5
Hopefully the Bandits can bring some stabillity to the league. They have been around for 11 years and have helped build up leagus in the past.
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Post by Banana Cat on Feb 12, 2011 20:56:41 GMT -5
It's nice to pad win-loss records since most fans don't support a losing team and too many years losing will make most minor league teams go under. Publishing your overall record as 6-5 and league record as 2-5 won't hurt though as you still have an overall winning record in the public's eyes. It's being disingenuous when you use non-league semi-pro team beatdowns in your league win-loss record though.
Adams leadership of his Koyotes the last two years has yielded poor results so there have been no issues come playoff time lately. As long as he is king though, there's always the danger of unfair rulings if his team is ever in title contention. If he is to remain in charge of the league, a non-puppet commissioner needs to be appointed.
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Post by IowaMatt72 on Feb 13, 2011 9:33:10 GMT -5
I only have one question about the Schedule they released.
Didn't they try the whole Florida Scorpions thing two years ago when the Drillers and that other Texas Team Joined the league?
How did that work out last time around? Oh that's right the Beaumont Drillers ended up "winning" the fictional APFL South Division and played the Kryotes for the APFL "Championship."
As for the schedule and games being met etc. From what I remember last season all the games that were LISTED on the Schedule were played, sure the Blackhawks and other APFL Teams played Teams from the CPFL but they did indeed have all their games last year. The Blackhawks schedule, again from what I remember, had the Missouri Mustangs, Junction CIty Force and other CPFL Teams listed on it so we (season ticket holders) got the games we were expecting.
There is definitely some shady stuff going on in the APFL seeing as Ralph Adams runs the league and that' not cool. As I and many others before me have stated in the past no league should be run by the same person that runs a team.
This year I decided to get Season tickets for the Omaha Beef (sorry to any BH's staff, players, or fans that are on this board) because the games are simply better. The Quality of the experience is 10 times that of the APFL Games, the Blackhawks try to put on a good show, but when the score of a game is 90-21 the game just isn't fun.
I wish the APFL, especially the Blackhawks, all the best of luck, I'll be at a couple of games this year (hopefully when they host the Bandits, Outlaws and Koyotes if they don't interfere with the Beef games) but most of my Saturdays will be spent in Omaha watching the Beef.
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Post by Banana Cat on Feb 13, 2011 14:41:37 GMT -5
Yes, the Scorpions were tried before.
Last year's APFL Schedule had some replacement games (where the teams that were scheduled were changed)...all were blowouts.
Agreed, a person running a team should not run the league.
Yes, blowouts against semi-pro teams are not fun to watch. Reason?...semi-pro teams don't practice as much and you will always see poor snaps, limited playbook, lots of fumbles and miscues, etc, etc, etc. Bringing in teams that normally play outdoor style to play the indoor game is a great novelty as an exhibition once in a blue moon, but not 3-4 times a year. They all result in ridiculous blowouts.
Agreed. The games against full-fledged APFL teams are fun and competitive. It's the others that ruin the league for me.
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Post by IowaMatt72 on Feb 13, 2011 20:40:48 GMT -5
You're not getting any argument from me on any of your points. I don't know that Replacement teams were used by the Blackhawks though. They were scheduled to play the Missouri Mustangs, Independence Bulldogs and the Junction City Force. That was there advertised schedule and that's who they played. (I'm looking at the schedule card that was sent to me as a Season ticket holder last year as I type this.)
The Mustangs, Bulldogs and Force are all indeed outdoor Minor league teams that play Indoor Rules but as you said they couldn't compete.
My point is THOSE are the teams that were listed on the schedule and those are the teams that the Fans of the Blackhawks saw against their team on the field. I could be wrong about the Bulldogs as I don't distinctly remember them, but then again I don't remember any of the blowouts from the past two seasons.
I agree with you that the APFL lost it's luster for me when I saw the score of some of the games last year. Not to mention, albeit they tried, the rediculous half time shows at some of the games.
Like I said before the two or three Beef Games I've been to over the past few years have all been very entertaining. They felt more like I was at a party where a football game broke out.
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Post by Banana Cat on Feb 13, 2011 21:01:14 GMT -5
I made a list of the original schedule last year and what they changed throughout the year. I posted it somewhere, but don't really care to look for it. None of the Blackhawks scheduled games were replaced.
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